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17 minutes ago, Broadsword said:
I copied the above, there are also further limited tickets on sale for the Odsal opener on 31st May as well.....call myself a car/van salesmanđ
Or tractor driverđ
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The trouble is that if not corrected some people believe the facts are correct, and then the truth gets altered.
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Iâve enjoyed reading the book, but feel I need to correct a few inaccuracies in it.
On P50 it mentions building a new car at Farlinge Road garage. Stuartâs garage was actually on Ramsey Street, Falinge Road (note spelling) was where he lived.
On P91 it refers to Willie Harrison buying the last pallet of Dunlop RS5 tyres in the country. This canât be correct as we were buying Dunlop RS5 tyres in the late 70âs and early 80âs.
P100 It states Stu smith debuted Gertie on Boxing Day 1974, it was actually Boxing Day 1973 (Stock Car Magazine April 1974)
P108 Stuart took the Dodo to the opening Hednesford meeting, but found problems so raced Gertie at the meeting (I think gearbox issues). (See May Stock Car Monthly P17) The Dodo made its first racing appearance at Bradford the following Wednesday. (See May Stock Car Monthly P10)
P113 Stuart took the Dodo to Bristol then raced Gertie at Belle Vue. I know this as my Dad and I took Gertie to Belle Vue for the meeting.
P122 The Coventry semi final, won by John Goodhall was on August 7th, not July 31st, this was the Nelson semi.
P175 when Frankie Wainman states âBrian Powles threw the race away as one of his Yankee cars was coming round the inside kerb, minding his own business and Powlesy climbed all over him and flattened a tyre. The Yank did nothing wrong, if Powlesy had slowed down a bit it was his race.â From my memory the Yank came off the centre green and deliberately drove into Brianâs inside front tyre, causing the puncture. Can anyone remember this?
P197 refers to Mike Parker taking over the Rochdale track and the track deteriorating. In fact, after Belle Vue stopped running Speedway they then carried on with Friday night meetings the following year. This is what ruined the track initially as they didnât maintain it after stopping the Speedway.
P203 Refers to Willie choosing a Dunlop 800 on the inside with an 890 on the outside for the 1982 World Final, implying it was an inspired choice. In fact, many drivers had been using that combination at Belle Vue during the previous season, I know we did.
P223 In the Dash for the Cash Mick Stecko didnât tangle with Mike Close. Mike had already passed him, but tangled with another driver as he came to start his last lap. This left Mick in the lead until Smithy passed him on the last bend.
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Unfortunately, very hard to hear what Dan is saying
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Interesting to look at the gaps between 100 finals and 200 finals, 200 finals and 300 finals, 300 finals and 400 finals. Shows how dominant he was as not a long time frame between them.
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I'm also disappointed, I logged on to buy a ticket about 1 hour too late. If anyone has 1 spare ticket it would be appreciated
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8 hours ago, Rod Matthew said:
I thought exactly the same, as soon as i saw the list.
Thought Catherine's first meeting might have been used a bit more on the publicity side of thingsDon't think it is her first meeting. Didn't she race at the Birmingham Gala meeting last year in the under 25's race?
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I much prefer that camera angle rather than the one looking at the driver. Have you thought of trying a camera looking behind the driver at the cars catching him?
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Big congratulations to Skegness stadium for getting the results on Speedhive so quickly
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8 hours ago, chairmanphil said:
the grading system was a great thing when introduced..but drivers started to take advantage of it by winning a few finals then retiring for a few months and being downgraded each month then doing it all over again it really annoyed me blatant cheating I called it ... then you couldn't be downgraded unless you did a certain amount of meetings and one of the drivers concerned decided to retire.. now undergraded drivers are winning finals with good quality cars not quite the same but a driver who wins a final should be upgraded for the next meeting especially with 2 day meetings..my opinion i'm sure others will have something to say about this point
I know when I first started watching it was interesting to see some drivers start the new season late on a regular basis, drop a grade the following month then win several races including finals. I do agree that current drivers who win a final should move up a grade next meeting. Perhaps not red top to Superstar, unless they had previously held Superstar for at least 6 meetings.
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I think the Post Office have announced that they are stopping Saturday deliveries for the time being
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I really enjoyed reading Stu Milnes book, Overalls Off and finding some information about Stu Smith that I didnât know. However Iâd like to make a correction and add a few stories.
 When Stu did the Bristol/Belle Vue double, Easter 1976 he raced the Dodo at Bristol and Gertie at Belle Vue. I know this because my Dad and I took Gertie to Belle Vue for Stuart. I was reminded recently that I had problems starting the engine to get the car off the trailer until I realised the petrol tap was turned off. My Dad also took Gertie to Nelson later in the season when it was the Long Eaton meeting in the afternoon in case we got damage, on that occasion Stuart raced the Dodo at both meetings.
When is Stuart Smithâs, 390, birthday? In the book it says August  . Yet in the Coventry World final programme from 2016 it he says he raced his first Mini Stox meeting a few days after his birthday in September.
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I remember helping to prepare the Derek Coleman car for Stuart to race during the White City World Final meeting. Stuart had decided to lend the Dodo to Harry Van de Spuij as he wanted to give him a chance to use a decent car in the Final and had felt embarrassed seeing Harry driving the Coleman car. We spent the day prior to leaving for White City getting the car ready, sorting out the brakes etc.
During the 1975 season we had taken the engine out of Gertie for some maintenance, I went down one afternoon and Stuart had taken the cylinder heads off and was scraping the carbon off with a chisel, he then put the heads back on using the same head gaskets as before.
One night at Nelson meeting we bent the back axle, so returned to the garage to do the repairs ready for the next day. The axle was cut, straightened and then re-welded. However when we had finished Stuart decided he wanted to check it was ok, this was about 2:00am. We opened the garage doors onto Ramsey Street and Stuart gave the car a quick blast down the road and back. On his return we quickly closed the doors and turned all the lights off, sure enough a few minutes later a Police car turned up. We sat in the darkness and waited for them to go before we could leave.
On my first visit to Brands Hatch, during the 1975 season, we arrived at the track as dawn was breaking having travelled through the night. I was amazed when Stuart got out an old mattress, put it under the coach and went to sleep. After another visit to Brands Hatch I remember stopping at a Pub in London, along with John Hillam and possibly Harry Smith, we finally got back to Rochdale about 5:00am, just in time for me to start work at 6:00am. This was in the days before the M25, when we travelled through London and Blackfriars Tunnel, Stuart always enjoyed his Jellied Eels on these visits.
Coming home from Brafield one day, with Stuart driving, he realised we were in the wrong lane for joining the M6, however this didnât deter him as we joined the M6, along with a few cars who hadnât planned to do so.
Going to the opening Hartlepool meeting we reached the outskirts of Hartlepool with no idea of where the track was, however Stuart spotted the Brian Powles coach in front so said, âFollow him, heâll know where to go.â Fortunately he did.
Before selling vans Stuart used to sell second hand cars. One day a lady came looking, and found a car she liked apart from the colour. Stuart told her that he had a car of the same make and model coming in later in the week but in the colour she wanted. When she had gone the car was brought into the garage and resprayed. When she came later in the week she happily bought the car.
Stuart had the words âThe Living Legendâ on the Dodo. One of his fans came up to us at a meeting and quite seriously asked, âWhat is a Leg End?â
I can remember the incident on page 90 as I was on the bus that night when Hillary clipped the arm of the man. I seem to remember it was as we left the track and it was a group of supporters making a noise, cheering and jeering, when one stuck his arm out to thumb a lift.
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I think you are thinking about Brianâs interviewÂ
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Much prefer this to the Off Track format. Much more informative about the driver and his plans/thoughts.
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I wonder how many other drivers still racing who raced at the same time as Stu Smith. I can think of 53, 215, 515
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Anyone know why 127 us down as a novice starting at the back??
New car poss?? Cheers..
Correct, new car for him
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Looks promising for "Belle Vue's Helter Skelter" event!....some of you may remember the old 'Vue and their last races of a meeting being called "Helter Skelter" for any car fit to run!
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Let's go for it and make it memorable.
i think that before the Grand National races were introduced all the last race were called the Helter Skelter
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Just hope the fence stands up to the saloons
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Did Tom discover the problem last night, then have to get the spare engine sent down from Altrincham? I can't imagine he had a spare engine with him. Good job the World Final wasn't longer.
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The website shows 3 heats scheduled
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I wonder if all the drivers for the WF will have arrived and be on track ready for the grid walk?đ
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What are people's thoughts about the grid and who may withdraw?
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Charlie Sworder on shale? Nigel Green may not be fit in time?
He raced on shale often enough in his mini
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Startrax haven't updated the booking list since Monday.
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C'mon team Startrax - Surely there must be some additions . For instance, John Lund, who has attended 3 Belle Vue meetings this year.
I'd imagine that after the recent poor weather he'll be busy on the farm, either hay making or silage
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Start times are a definite factor for declining crowds and probably drivers too. A long time ago now, I used to work 6 hours on a Saturday, then set off at 3.30pm and get to Coventry in plenty of time for the 7.15pm start. The earlier and earlier start times just mean less and less time in which to get there.
Perhaps some of the earlier start times, particularly in summer, let the meeting finish without the need to use the floodlights, so saving money
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King's Lynn - Saturday 22nd May - 5:30pm
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Interesting that a few of those aren't on the BSCDA list of drivers registered for 2021