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  1. Statement from Startrax Hi all, Thanks for the comments - Answering Melvyn, the Grandstand incremental income goes to the stadium, I am unsure of the pricing however, if you understood the overall 'loss' Buster is making on the entire stadium in 2020, let me tell you it is 'eye watering' and the extra £1 you mention will be simply to defray some cost as with social distance guidance less than 50% can get into the Grandstand now, even limiting that contribution. Yes, we had aimed at 9.30.pm as a finish - as John B related - and it finished at 9.25.pm. F1 wise Melvyn - and we do think about the fans, all three heats were well subscribed, fast turnaround and to ensure as many cars on track it was an all in final, over 30 cars which was reasonably hectic. Given the timely manner the meeting progressed at, with a short period of one race and, to ensure 20+ for the GN instead of 'locking the gate' and perhaps 16 ready would be what the greater majority of people would want to see ? Certainly, that would be my understanding and my long years. You mention and yes the 'drama' of locking a high profile driver out and then the theatricals of that - and whether the gate would open or remain closed, that 10 minutes would have elapsed! I cannot comment as JB stated, whether an F2 was/wasn't locked out of GN - simply don't know. I do remember when I took over from George Silverwood when we had Odsal to Clerk of the course and George moved on to other duties his warning ' Never give in and open the gate' as it was a rule of Odsal, it was never opened, those are memories. Times move on. There is comment regards the queu, a tribal thing and as promoters we do scratch our heads at how early people arrive and 2/3 hours before gates open queu their chairs 'ready' for the tapes to lift at Aintree for the Grand National arriving 5/6 hours before start time, but that is part of their experience and what they want to do as their day out, to be honest I did not see too much of a stampede and walking around and talking a lot of the night, it was very relaxed, very positive and people were generally 'living' with the lack of liberalism that has been insisted upon us - an full credit to our loyal fans for that and, generally in good humour. If anything what surprised me was exemptions from face masks for medical conditions [ or of course eating /drinking ] I am no clinician, so not for me to question. Programmes, well that one has been explained - and exhausted, it is what it is and different Risk assessments in different areas Both Jackie and I wish to thank Paul, Graham, Buster and the TSR team for accommodating us and making us welcome, again promoters working together, the almighty for bless sing the World Final that wasn't a world final with at least saintly weather, the race teams, all were in great spirit and humour and - anxious to both race and entertain, which they did. It was more relaxing than perhaps normal and great to talk and more importantly thank you for your support, and behaviour in true British spirit as we all get used to the new norm. Steve Rees
  2. Reply to JB Hi John, You and I talk a great deal, exchange views agree and disagree on many things - so my repost is an opinion of mine much as you regularly expouse your rather dark and depressing views but, John, why do you go and watch F1's any more ? I know you do not as much as you perhaps did and that's sad, but just in the last two weeks you plunge me into suicidal thoughts ! In part, this 'die hard attitude' of a minority and negativity / behaviour is why promoters are thinking of turning their backs - it's not about the drivers per se, it's the 'baggage' and constant critique from people who have lost the will to 'enjoy' what they way to go to see and actually go with a negative attitude - It is THAT which holds our sport back - FFS in the 70's at Nelson, 39 cars, never had a booking list a one staple wonder programme, there might be 4 reds there - but, boy did I enjoy it! NEGATIVE views affect and influence all! Big word missing currently RESPECT Programmes, mentioned last week, explained and again, sorry, different EHO's have different requirements, they may 'seem' petty, but that's what we have to work within to go racing, sorry if it offends - At least both promotions put the effort into producing quality readable literature you can download and rad in comfort, after reading one or two comments last week, Jonny managed to format it to download on a phone very well, page by page - being honest, we could have just produced a running order and drivers list! Effort was made. We live in a tourist area and let me say how impressed we were at the set up! Grandstand, simple - move outside, get wet or we could ask everyone to remove their chairs to create more room. If life EVERY meeting is as simple on jumping on here to express moans, respectfully it's a case of whether it is for you any more, but please - and again respectfully, please do not infect us all with your negativity. You clearly have no desire or bother of understanding that car turnouts are good, many, many drivers want to race but are being morally responsible with reference actions they have had to take in their own businesses. F1 despite the 'year' has new drivers coming in - I have NO FEAR about what will happen in 2021 We are not in the 1970's anymore, I too was there. This constant 'drip drip' negativity in unhelpful, unwarranted and, respectfully, if nothing positive to say, don't say it - please, if it doesn't float your boat anymore of leave you excited, nothing worse than it being habit. Look at the positive without ALMOST ALWAYS accentuating your personal view of the negatives. i thought the racing across all formulae with/without say 515,150,445 just as examples who were not there for their own reasons deterred from 'stock car racing' Applaud the commitment particularly in such difficult times and what efforts many people are putting in. Try some medication and anti depressants and then come back! In the short time since I posted a piece on Startrax Facebook page 17 people have responded, 1650 reach so far and their views are 100% contradictory to yours - John we must move this sport forward without the baggage of unnecessary critique and opinion. Justified comment, always accepted - but these days struggle to read your posts to learn, just read a quite bitter almost anti F1 man - very,very sad, knowing you and your family and passions for oval racing. Steve Rees
  3. We are sad to report that 186 Henry Wolfenden passed away last night, aged 80.
  4. Stoxnet

    BriSCA F1 is Back

    Statement from Steve Rees I am not subscribed as such to Stoxnet for the very reason I would be responding daily as I used to. Reading some of the points causes abject frustration I am afraid and respectfully 'fans' have as much responsibility in the health of the sport as drivers and promoters. Let's stick to facts - a comment 'promoters don't promote - absolute 'claptrap' - I will happily post my media invoices, most if not all do - and we engage more than ever before in keeping fans up to date. I think the bigger issue is a demand for 'too much information' - I get the passion but it has to be balanced with reality. BiSCA F1 is not the sport it was in many respects to 40 years ago, I too weep with dismay when I look at pictures from the 60's and 70's BUT life has changed. National Bangers are the pull in the South [ albeit not as much in the North ] and some of them cost more than F1 events to attend with far less prize money. Bangers have been big in the South since the 1970's. There are comments directed at BSCDA, drivers, promoters, indeed the whole nine yards. The BriSCA / BSCDA relationship and BriSCA F1 maybe considered quirky, we have a heritage of families and fans and an older fan base, but we are much more a closer family as a sport. It would be crass at the same time to say 'everything is perfect', in business or all walks of life, there are always problems and businesses and lifestyles like fashion are cyclical. Have the cars got to wizzy ? Yes and no - this SAME argument filled the sports magazines since Peter Arnolds Stock Car Racing News days thro to Stock Car Supporter with the same diversity of rules and then, along came Banger racing as Stock Cars developed a smarter image and Bill Morris invented the latest craze 'Hot Rods' which stormed the country in the early seventies - 7500 at Nelson reputedly at Nelson to watch a Hot Rod meeting, I have vague memories! Let me dismiss theories, Spedeworth/Incarace have not pulled out because of prize money and passes, neither has any other promotion as far as I am aware done the same for that reason. Yes, we are promoters and therefore we do the best for our business. Would we like less passes etc, of course we would. However, this package IS NOT preventing other promoters running the formula either, if it was economics then the fixture list would on that basis be 50% of what it is. BSCDA, are they perfect, no, but the exchange helps keep promoters honest. Are they equally passionate about the sport ? Yes. We have a Management Board where we try to discuss 'give and take' and most of the time it works. Deane has made a choice with some valid points - he is entitled to those points and on some, he will be correct but not all. We are all entitled to our own opinion and those opinions have to be respected on all sides, sometimes they are embraced, sometimes they are not, that is life and compromise and it can be all about how much compromise an individual will accept. BriSCA F1 has lost tracks, so have other formulae, they though by enlarge are more regional than F1, it's the geography of tracks that affects the F1 driver base. It was a Northern sport and over the years, sadly tracks have been lost beyond promoters control. BUT whilst the base has dropped, the sport has sustained but mixed with that is that peoples expectations seem to have changed and attitudes. This IS NOT a preferable option and I do respect Deane but do I agree going nuclear 'no' - I have to respect it and the reasons, it won't help the sport in the short term, indeed it 'could' force more tracks to close their doors although that does not seem imminent. We are where we are, hopefully at some time more reasoned discussions can develop. Our job, those remaining and valued race teams and fans, is NOT to gloss it up, but to protect the sport positively and 'move on' what would be the alternative ? It's not happening. JB mentions a point about individual promoters having too many tracks, in everyday life, not a problem, but yes when such as Deane pulls out, it creates a major conundrum and challenge. I for one would like to see the situation resolved sooner than later and with an outcome that is balanced and for all sides. It is not for social media really to 'air' dirty linen, it helps no one, it should remain behind closed doors. Hopefully, once the dust settles and 'time' being a healer, hopefully the square may be circled. However today, it's about the rest of us rallying together to positively influence moving forward what we can, not what we can't. It's a 'reality world' - and we will and knee jerk reactions are not for today. We have all gone through a catastrophe in different ways since March from which we must recover. Together we now have 11ish dates, not perfect and it is eight months before season 2021 commences - and it will, plans will evolve hopefully things will develop for inclusivity with our prodigal, if they don't then we must move forward in a different direction and restore stability. The powers that be are just like you in the main, passionate, got businesses to run and survive, drivers similarly - and fans. There are neither any 'unicorns' some demands and ;wish lists' are simply not viable, but we will do our best in a positive manner and the 2021 season will come, the shape of the calendar will be different. There will points fans may 'love' and there will undeniably be some disappointments. However, we will get through it, BriSCA has been down to 6 tracks in the past and evolved and will do so again. Do NOT underestimate the passion of promoters and race teams which is undiminished - I can say that first hand, yes we feel the disappointment and frustration and also the intent to find solutions, but, if unachievable to ensure sustainability and rebuild. Finding resolutions should remain behind closed doors ongoing however we must plan accordingly with the sport in mind! Life would have been so much simpler without Coronavirus, another 4 months and we would have retired! We too now have along haul, that's our commitment! Steve Rees
  5. Stoxnet

    BriSCA F1 is Back

    Statement from Steve Rees. We are all disappointed at Deane’s decision and it is not for me to represent Deane's views. However his decision is not as such start/ prize money for a return, Deane had indicated his position before we even knew we might come back. I also think many assumptions are being made which respectfully are just that. F1 will have possibly in excess of 32 dates I predict in 2021 BMB will remain in contact with Deane ongoing and there is no major ‘fall out’ as such but differences in culture. We will continue to keep an open door policy however he has the right to follow his conviction. Don’t make certain assumptions fact as regards 2021 as some stated are incorrect. In ending, we are ALL disappointed at Deane's decision. Let’s have a period of reflection, it is what it is. It is not however world ending and if we can survive Coronavirus we will step up to the plate re the future Let’s take one step at a time. Let me repeat, relationships remain friendly and the door Is and remains open . Steve Rees
  6. Stoxnet

    Bradford

    Statement from Steve Rees I am reading the responses, some creative, some speculative and some opinion based on zero fact. Then are added totally abstract opinions on what happened at Mildenhall, unconnected, and extremely complicated and, in fact still going on the Court of Human Right's. Thus far we have keep all updated based upon FACT and not speculation - an honest update as to where and how the project is proceeding which has been quite a lot of work to date. In summary: 1.A detailed proposal was sent by me to the RFL in April - with projections and a request for discussion 2.This received a response very promptly and within 10 days the first discussion took place 3.Following that I submitted a more detailed 9 page business plan 4.That resulted in a further telecon after that had been digested 5.Following that followed another document that went into event more detail, budgets, 16 week delivery plan etc. 6.The project has been 'thoroughly' planned and costed and key individuals within our sport have been involved an consulted to ensure it's 'right' and another 9 page review after a site visit was completed and sent last Friday to the RFL 7.This Saturday, we received a further e-mail from the RFL which was encouraging and the RFL are considering. I will not betray confidences in actual content, they are not for public scrutiny as at some time may become contractual obligation. We now sit patiently for a further hopefully next step meeting. For our part we have completed ALL we can at this stage, a fully costed and workable plan - It is now to be elevated to the next level for further due diligence to commence - We know how much it will cost, we have a delivery plan and contractors, a projection for income and expenses [ albeit some expenses may not be concluded until we reach final agreements, however major ones 'in principle' have ] If we get to a further phase, then there will be more work to undertake as part of due diligence. Stock Cars & Speedway have a certificate of Lawful use, and I have put a team together to do this properly stepping forward, one of the team has vast experience of Odsal and council contacts and he has been delegated at the appropriate time to discuss the plans with Bradford council and any issues they may perceive or precipitate to resolve. There is a huge influx of opinion and comparisons to Mildenhall that, actually, are not really relevent here, but, be assured at the next stage, all will be checked out as we did in 2013 [ at a time planning had already been submitted for the housing project ] - it was green lighted to go in August 2013 We have no intention of taking any loans out - they have to be repaid and quite simply if we did not have sufficient liquidity, we would not be looking into doing it - However, a major risk at our time of life as we will be using funds we would hope to be using for retirement - and indeed living on now during a period of fixed expenses v ZERO income However, we have quite exciting and plans which at the appropriate time will be released which will offer value for money at different levels. This IS a business. It's thought through properly, every step of the way has been measured and NOT speculative and at ALL times we have identified the possibility that for any one of several reasons, this plan may not succeed for elements outside our jurisdiction. That's as far as it is in factual bullet points. We very much value the genuine support but get disappointed at the speculation and at times negativity / personal content of some opinion, it is unhelpful given that such may be read by a much wider audience. Let's take it as it evolves. The only reasons it may fail 1. The RFL cannot conclude that re -opening Odsal Stadium is unviable for Rugby League [ It cannot survive on motorsport alone ] which sadly may leave no other alternative than to consider redevelopment proposals. That is NOT the message coming across and we are 'discussing' a 10 year lease as a requirement 2. The stadium plans to run concerts, it has continued with Monster Trucks & Fireworks, we do not envisage 'planning issues' but this will be robustly checked at the appropriate time, we believe documentation to hand is correct BUT we would not proceed further until scrupulously consulted upon. 3. Coronavirus and when a likelihood of crowds being allowed back has also to be a consideration for ourselves and RFL and built into any plan and timing. I hope the above provides a thorough update on the project and tempers further speculation. When 'we know' the next step, as we have already kept people fully informed, we will then advise you. If there is something to learn for the future, we will not comment on anything that we may be looking at that, if for reasons that things conclude cannot happen, may not then be viewed as 'failure' or comparisons drawn. We are VERY proud of our involvement in the sport and loved 95% of it, the other 5% sadly we cannot do anything about,. If it wasn't for passion, we could quite happily [ and still ] melt away into retirement obscurity 'thank you very much' - This is not about 'money' it's about legacy and leaving something behind but, unashamedly, if Jackie and I are going to take risk at our time of life, we owe it to ourselves to ensure we get it back and as custodians, it is viable to continue. The big question for ALL to consider IS why so few want to pursue new opportunity, in past that can be answered in investment v return v risk and the dynamics of the business. Oval racing has a robust future, but ALL should encourage any and every effort rather than disingenuously raise opinions that, if I am honest, are making us think twice. The only factor is that we understand it's an absolute minority that do not speak for the majority. Being absolutely candid and NO inference to the moderators handling of the site - until specifically directed to it in the last two weeks I happily had not been on it for, what 6 months and before that, rarely and up to know it that absence had restored my passion without getting depressed at the detritus. If that causes offence to a minority, sorry but it is fact. Our sport has a future, everyone from top to bottom is affected by the current issues, not all will sadly survive. More than ever, social media and it's power should be used in a positive manner to keep our family together. With Bradford, going back to late January, it had been our intent to keep ALL below the radar however the conduit we had between us and the RFL at the time was also a journalist as well as speedway fan. Despite a request to keep it low key whilst we made baby steps, it suddenly was revealed [ prematurely at that time ] in Yorkshire Post, T&A and Speedway Star which let the genie out of the bottle to which then we had to comment and update because we are transparent. Had it not been 'announced' I doubt we would be talking about it - yet, until we could confirm it was a goer - BUT we are not always in control of our destiny on certain things. God willing, we will continue the miles to try and bring this to completion. If we fail, we fail and you will be informed of the reasons. A previous post, disingenuously, remarked on tracks we had opened and tracks we failed upon leading to us, in my view having to fully justify. However quickly by that narrative we had AT LEAST succeeded in 50% which is not a bad ratio. As the sadly the late Caroline Flack said, 'Be Kind' - if you cannot, think about saying it. We need to support each other rather than speculating and putting conditions on potential support that has not even been asked for. Keep the faith
  7. Stoxnet

    Bradford

    Statement from Steve Rees Read a thread on Stoxnet with interest and it is encouraging to see the enthusiasm. I have to take a little exception to Peter Loix 'let's hope it's not hot air' - That offends a little because define 'Hot air' ?????? Every year since 1997 Odsal with regular monotony comes up and the only one that has gone the yards, firstly in 2003, 2006.2010 and then 'almost' got there in 2013 until OK Bulls went bust, is us! I estimate we have put in excess of 100 personal hours into this, e-mails,telecons, business plans and, most recently a site visit with several from within and outside the sport so I would guess if all chargeable rather than 'free' I have expended £3-4k on this proposal, a fully costed proposal / business plan and, following the visit and tidying more outstanding questions - a proposal that will be viable as part of a 10 year plan now exists and, together with a forensic feedback from Thursdays evaluation on site meeting, now is in the hands of the RFL. Startrax have stepped up to the plate and the public request last year from the RFL for users interested in operating at Odsal to contact them. We did and progressed now to a point where the next step is firmly in the RFL court to make a decision. We have absolutely no control over that destiny. This is a big stadium cost wise to operate. The Bulls temporary move to Dewsbury was basically to survive because Odsal was too expensive limited to Rugby. The RFL now have a difficult and history making decision to make and in conjunction with the Bulls. The revenue stream projected for Odsal must see the Bulls costs drop for them to be interested in coming back - those are RFL matters not ours. There may be a reluctant alternative if viability cannot be found, redevelopment, it IS as far as I can see, the only other option and after a few more years dormant, too costly to bring back. Therefore, as I have gone at pains to explain in updates to keep everyone informed of progress, despite the work, there are no guarantees that combined it will be viable, on that basis, eventually the project may fail. If it fails, then that will not be due to 'hot air' as a plan has been submitted, it will fail on overall viability and RFL not returning, basically that will be the definitive end of Odsal. However, it may also get a green light and it will be open for Spring 2021. If it fails, I have no regrets about the work input and it will have only failed on overall viability. The RFL, Bradford Bulls and the stadium is a business. Reality is this stadium cannot survive on motorsport alone. I must thank the RFL for allowing us the opportunity to actually put a plan forward for them to consider. We will have the answer by September at the latest, or as soon as we have a decision or further progress. At 60 years of age, £300k investment and the stress and risk, spare a thought, how much do I need this personally, It is a risk and will also take a few years, not meetings to payback and a lengthy commitment. The reason, passion and love of the sport, it's not money, that is important for the wheels to turn, it's about creating something that hopefully will be a legacy. The major problem with stadium,arena events etc is 'risk' and our sport is no different, it is risky, weather dependant and outside influences - and if something goes seriously wrong, you can go to prison! Hence despite often used phrases of 'cartels' etc, realistically it is about 'survival' and there is no queu of wannabee promoters, but respectfully there are those who think promoters make huge sums so when tracks close, expect others like existing promoters to magically step in with their financial resources to save venues. Why would anyone think that could happen, in most cases venues close because they are worth more for redevelopment than the general small revenue they produce. Its like Morrisons struggling and suggesting Asda, Tesco and Sainsbury's step in to bail it out. The sport has changed very much and evolved from big stadiums, basically greyhound venues with that sport as the main commercial justification to, as those have gone, smaller, often owned and unlikely to be attractive redevelopment wise and smaller scale that fit todays scaled down requirements. Let's be positive, there are still those prepared to take a calculated gamble. The sport will survive but neither do not underestimate the crippling consequences of Covid 19 and the longer term consequences that will last for some time to recover from. As an individual promotion, we have got off our backside to try and 'look' elsewhere, Leicester has only 'stalled' in awaiting a decision as to how the next step re planning is to be progressed. As a team we visited Leicester late October, measured it, heartened by considerable local support re installation. Conceptually, rope and post fence, reached agreement in concept with the Speedway promoter who holds the sub lease and the head leaseholder [ we have copy e-mails was supportive on the basis it would help speedway. However his team wanted to deal with the planning, fair enough but up to February, excruciatingly slow - therefore we parked it to try and look at 2021 which was where it remained in February. We then went into March and the position we are in and the Odsal possibilities also arose, that was then our 'focus' as possibly tangible. We have another site to 'explore' if Odsal fails and we have an optimism for this as a plan B as executable before a possible C in revisiting Leicester, the latter option actually being more affordable as it would be an up and down rope and post fence. Again, there is no guarantee that this may ever getting planning permission until we try - Fantastic banked and massive track, super and tidy well maintained stadium , credit to the hard work of David Helmsley. Subject to planning a fantastic and spacious pit area could be created, parking would be tight and similar to Birmingham. It ticks many,many boxes and we would love the opportunity to move another step forward and 'test' what the planning obstacles may well be. It may be declined - but it may be approved, it's the only way forward, to measure the speculative cost v the benefit, not all will succeed and this also may not. You will never know unless you knock on the door! That creates not only possible options but one in ten may turn into opportunity and that's where persistence matters! Numbers game and passion. At the moment we still have the desire, others need the same. At the moment with all that's been going on, the last 2 years have probably been the worst of our life and 27 years. We spent 18 months fighting planning at Belle Vue, it consumed considerable time, effort, so much it affected our attention a bit from the main core business, we put up an excellent fight but sadly lost the fight against redevelopment and, as we sit here and with the Covid 19 we are no clearer on the future as to IF, when it will go. At £275k ish rent and £50k ish plus rates will it survive ? Unknown. Thankfully Sheffield is very safe in the medium and long term, hence our increasing commitment to it. Dave Perry & A&S Leisure are investors and not developers. We lost Stoke, a shock but not a surprise though. Generally 'unloved' attracted a lot of critique and it's mere existence over the last 12 years in particular has been driven to make it survive motivated by 'care' and 'passion' by Dave and myself - certainly not based on generating revenue to go to the Bahamas! For me personally against this backdrop and the devastating Covid 19 consequences, in many respects, not in a good place - We had intended 'retirement' in an ideal world at the end of the year. But we have remained driven for our F1 passion to 'not give up'. Therefore, I am a bit vulnerable to quips at the moment. For a bit of self indulgence - and perhaps to look at promoters with a bit more generosity in all settings, it is a fight. I will be arrogant but still going to say it - We came into this role in 1994/5, undercapitalised [ under funded ] as a fan and ex driver but - and most respectfully, if we hadn't stumbled into this because of that passion, racing in the North would have vanished more than 20 years ago! We came in at Bolton in 1995 and kept it alive for 2 years which would have been much longer had the owners not sold the stadium and due to previous promoters actions, had to pay a £10k bond! Being nieve and green, we then became gung ho and bought Stoke [ which had been a graveyard for promoters since 1973 - but hell, we had enthusiasm, a magic potion and ended up serving 16 years at the stadium, not learning first time round, came back for a second go in 2011! Bammy was closing Odsal in 1995, again, gung ho we bought that off Bammy and had two successful years which did return the investment and, 1998 onwards would have been profitable, but out of the blue, it was to close for 2 years for Superdome [ sustainable - we were planned to return ] to be closed fully! We invested considerably in re opening Sheffield at the end of 1996 - without that, would it be there now ? We tried and got screwed at Workington - lessons painfully learnt and we tried to resurrect Hartlepool and proud that we did run one F1 meeting there in 96 and equally proud we took F1's to Barford for a one off 18 years ago. We opened Belle Vue as a risk and at considerable cost, it originally was only granted planning permission for one year and five events, HUGE gamble - Proud that it has completed 21 years, more than even Nelson and many other tracks, god willing it may have more in the tank. We took on Swindon, invested and had there not developed alternate uses, get we would still be there. We ran several successful seasons for non F1 at Coventry - a huge blow to lose that in 2016, we were running as many if not slightly more than F1s at Cov! We have huge pride in running our 2014 WF there and several other well supported F1 events So, in our timespan, I believe our commitment total - Our sport is one where we all have to combine, one team that moves together and shares responsibility, we have stepped up the plate and in these difficult times we all must do so. The passion remains, as long as it does, I would like to believe F1 will move forward well. In ending, Jackie and I thank everyone that has generously provided encouragement with regards Odsal - speedway and stock cars. If we can do, we will, if it cannot be done we will move on to something else pretty quickly, at 60 not too many years left LOL Steve Rees
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  10. If you are having trouble logging into Stoxnet after our upgrade Where we have seen login problems ourselves, we've found that clearing the Stoxnet cookie helps - and we have been able to sign in each time after doing that. So if you have trouble signing in (your username and password not accepted, but you don't get an error message), you might need to delete the Stoxnet cookie from your computer before you can sign in again. We don't recommend that you delete all of your browser's cookies though - that's a bit excessive and it'd log you out of every website that you use, and you'd lose all of your preferences. Instead, if you use Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Apple Safari or Microsoft's new Edge browser, you can delete just the Stoxnet cookies without harming any cookies belonging to other sites. Below are videos on what you'd need to do in each of those browsers: it's only half a dozen clicks. Chrome Click the three dots at the top right of your Chrome window Click Settings from the menu, then Advanced on the left and Privacy and security Click Site settings and then Cookies and site data Click See all cookies and site data and then type stoxnet into the Search cookies box at the top right Click Remove All Shown and then Clear all Close the Settings tab and visit forum.stoxnet.com/login again Clear Stoxnet Cookies - Chrome.mp4 Microsoft Edge (the new version only) Click the three dots at the top right of your Edge window Click Settings from the menu, then Site permissions on the left Click Cookies and site data at the top, then See all cookies and site data below it Type stoxnet into the Search cookies box at the top right Click Remove All Shown and then Clear Close the Settings tab and visit forum.stoxnet.com/login again Clear Stoxnet Cookies - New Edge.mp4 Firefox Click the 'burger button' three stripes at the top right of your Firefox window Click Options from the menu, then Privacy & Security on the left Scroll down to the Cookies and Site Data title and click Manage Data Type stoxnet into the box and click Remove all shown Click Save Changes and then Remove Close the Settings tab and visit forum.stoxnet.com/login again Clear Stoxnet Cookies - Firefox.mp4 Safari Click the Safari menu at the top of the screen and then click Preferences Click the Privacy tab of the settings window that opens Press Manage website data and then type stoxnet in the Search box at the top right Select the stoxnet.com row and click Remove (twice, if it doesn't die the first time) Click Done, then close the Settings window and visit forum.stoxnet.com/login again Clear Stoxnet Cookies - Safari Mac.mp4 Microsoft Edge (the original version) and Microsoft Internet Explorer You have our sympathies. Really, upgrade to at least the new Microsoft Edge, or ideally, Google Chrome. Otherwise you'll likely have to delete all cookies, and that's a bit harsh.
  11. Welcome back and thank you for your patience. As you can see, we have the forum back, and will get the galleries back soon. Unfortunately linking the two is proving to be every bit as difficult as we feared, rather than being as easy as we had hoped.
  12. If anyone can help Cameron but they aren't a member of Stoxnet, then send an email to admin@stoxnet.com and we'll forward it on to him.
  13. The winner of Personality Of The Year is MARK SARGENT Congratulations, Sarge!
  14. Stoxnet will not be available for some time due to a software upgrade.
  15. The nominations are Russell CooperMark SargentPaul HarrisonCalamity JaneVoting is on here, and also on Stoxnet's Facebook page, and Nige's Twitter. If you're not a member of Stoxnet and don't have a Facebook or Twitter account, you can email you votes to admin@stoxnet.com
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