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    Sad News - Tim Warwick

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    Really sad news, last time I spoke to Tim was in the bar at Belle vue 2004, really nice guy, a proper stock car driver I’d say, old school.

    I had a couple of great races and battles against him tit for tat at Skeggy.

    I was actually watching some old Coventry footage on YouTube featuring 307 when I read this. 
    Very sad news, deepest sympathy from myself and family.

    It’s just really sad RIP

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    OFF TRACK: LOCKDOWN WITH NIGEL GREEN (445) - WEDNESDAY @ 8PM

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    29 minutes ago, Carl H said:

    That's interesting. Cars from the 70s and 80s don't look as though they are any wider than today's cars. Do  you know what axles they used?  I thought everyone used LDs back then - were they narrower than Transits? 

     

    I think they did it with rims and spacers, ld and fg. But I don’t think there was any narrowing back them. So probably not to the extent of Nigel’s axles.

    Im just picking up on what I heard that day🤔

     

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    OFF TRACK: LOCKDOWN WITH NIGEL GREEN (445) - WEDNESDAY @ 8PM

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    11 hours ago, Dave Wayne said:

    Without wanting to start the ball rolling on a hotly disputed topic, while I agree with you (and Nigel) that what he had done with the 'full width' axle was not a costly innovation the problem was that it would have taken the sport in a very wrong direction. The wider track meant that the car was much more stable in the turns and therefore very difficult to move off line with normal contact. Had they not made the rule change when they did we would have been moving into the same territory as F2s when RCE built the wider axle car. It became extremely boring to watch as it became 'stock cars racing' rather than 'stock car' racing. It took F2 over 10 years to recover on tarmac as the rule changes were not made soon enough which meant that too many people had that type of car, and they then had to be phased out gradually. By nipping it in the bud before it became the norm, the F1 board made a brave move but one which was necessary to keep the sport heading in the right direction.

    Hello and thanks,
    If it makes the sport boring well I understand that. But I do remember being stood at Hednesford listening to Stu Smith snr and Doug, we hadn’t been for a while, Stu said to Doug “You know how we used to widen our axles? well now they don’t do that, they narrow them and on tarmac it’s like karting.”
    So I’m not sure what to think

    Maybe tyres are another factor?

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    OFF TRACK: LOCKDOWN WITH NIGEL GREEN (445) - WEDNESDAY @ 8PM

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    Yes another enjoyable and interesting interview, so thank you.

    Nigel’s story is not uncommon, where an idea which doesn’t cost much money and anyone could use, leads to a change of rule. And unfortunately lead to a talented driver taking a year out and I imagine he questioned returning.

    I would have thought the sport needs to encourage innovators not ban their ideas, especially when the ideas beef up the competition, don’t cost thousands and thousands and really move the sport forward.
     

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