Hi Trev Very strange! Just joned Stoxnet today and also just bought World of Outlaws for the PS2 last week! Fantastic fun! Then i check out the forum and here you are! Hope you had a good Christmas and Happy New Year! Any Rebel racing this season? Hope to see you on track!!! This is of no use to you with regard to your question i know and i don't know the answer but a good excuse to say hi and make my first post!