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Was it 2/3 format? Mylaps say 25 cars raced, heat splits were 13,17,20 so not very evenly done...

Dave G unfortunately that's not the case, many f1 fans will not turn up, too many pick and choose their meetings now, for various reasons. Each meeting needs some sort of enticement to go for the drivers and the fans, every meeting competes with all the other things we could be doing in our lives, and it's not a moan if someone points out that this Hednesford meeting has little incentive, but I will say the meeting as a whole could be a very good one with 42 saloons all-in.

Did you go to Northampton Doug? You will see from the ratings on here it was one of the best meetings of the year. The number of British drivers doesn't relate to how good a meeting can be.

Thanks, the Spedeworth site has been changed now. It will be interesting to see if this meeting is supported by drivers, hard to imagine it will be after a hectic world weekend and the shootout round the corner.

The Spedeworth website says this is a National Series round but the F1 fixture list says it isn't. Anyone know for sure if it is?

http://www.spedeworth.co.uk/bookedin.php?id=1747 60 Dutch F1's booked in...

Yes I think it's to do with encouraging socialising in the bar for the evening. But I'm sure there are a lot more people who would rather the later start. Those who go to the bar after racing for a few hours will still have been drinking while watching the racing if it started later so a bad decision all round in my opinion. It was done at Mildenhall weekend this year and the crowd looked down on the saturday to me. I went to Skegness saturday and struggled to get there until about 5pm, but I enjoyed it and had some drinks through the evening. If it had started at 3 I wouldn't have gone.

The reason a lot of people camp is so you can have a drink. You can't do that if you have to drive to your digs so the price is not necessarily the main consideration.

StockCarSteve I think the way it's priced is understandable and what you would expect. If you rent a piece of land for the night you pay according to how much you rent, so a pitch of a similar size should cost the same amount, regardless of whether you put a camper with 10 people on it or a tent with one person. Yes it could vary a little because there are less people using the toilets for example, but as premier says if it was per person it would be too difficult to control.

Thanks RoyB the pit news is interesting

I wish people would stop bringing the c-word up in nearly every post! Coventry has gone, it's been nearly 3 years, please move on. The stuck-in-the-past people who use it as a reason to promote the negativity bandwagon at any little opportunity are having such a negative effect on the formula at a time when they should be trying to do the opposite. If you look at any fixture list there will always be a few meetings each year that look like they might suffer with a lower than average turnout, usually either because of too many fixtures taking it's toll on the drivers, or because some meetings don't have much at stake, points or championship wise, so the drivers are more likely to give those ones a miss. Personally I think there are too many meetings in general. Less is more I would always say. But so what if there aren't as many cars racing this Saturday as there would have been at Coventry, the racing will still be enjoyable and there is no reason why it won't be as good as it would have been at Coventry. Those fans who get their old programme stats out and compare today's turn-outs to how they were back in the day and use it as a reason not to attend meetings are just putting another nail in the coffin of the whole sport. As has been said by many people before, forget jumping on the keyboard to hit the negativity button as a knee-jerk reaction, just go and enjoy the sport while you still can.

Many thanks for doing this Ricky much appreciated

What are the points available on Sunday for each of the races? I'm trying to find details of the normal points structure for F1's but can't find it anywhere...

I think you could make both work by having saloons heats on the friday (say each driver races 3 out of 5) and the final and allcomers on the saturday. That way you only have 2 saloon races but they are big ones. Plenty of time for as many f1's that want to race sat as well. If saloons are on the crowd will definitely be bigger I would say

Yet again some people have their blinkers on and can't look at the wider picture, they are just stuck in the past and are only interested in their own situation and can't accept that the whole outlook for the sport has changed and promoting has to be more viable otherwise there will be no sport to watch at all. Does it really matter that, if you insist on only eating you own food, you have to eat it before you go into the meeting, or come out during the meeting to have some of it, or wait till after the meeting to eat the rest? Is that really a problem for the majority of people? Change happens for the long term benefit of everyone so just go with it or stay at home and look at your old photos of all the tracks that have closed because the promoters can't make it pay.